These bowl, wok, horn and other designs are great!
I want to try to collect as many cardboard/chloroplast & foil designs as possible along with improvised dishes like you are using, I am especially thinking of chloroplast to make the old 90degree horns you saw on the old microwave relay towers might be easier than a dish. Anyone who can do a technical cartoonish drawing like you see in wikihow would make such a guide much better. We need both exact measurements for most end users as well as plug-in formula to go off freq or improvise for stealth etc. as required by this similar projects in the future.
Also needed is creative and weather resistant stands and tripods for horns, dishes, and bare LNBs.
For the stands I think wood is the easiest material most people will have access to.
These bowl, wok, horn and other designs are great!
Good ideas, I always wanted to try and get something that is either common products, or that is flat for shipping… then easily assembled… and durable. My tin foil applied to a plastic cup lasted about one month until a rain storm blow it across the yard.
That is the big downside to most of the ultralight foil and plastic DIY stuff, it is terrible in weather, the obvious reason why we see galvanized steel dishes.
Two designs I want to try are to get a 1m or larger beach ball and find a good high Al paint(or even a few hundred aluminum shiny dot stickers) for the reflector and elastic rigging inside to hold the LNB at focal point then glue patch shut the holes, I think there is also patent issues if sent out for mass production.
The other is to make a lightweight nomad dish from two identical stamped commercial steel dishes, lay down foil in the bottom dish, resin and a mat or two of fiberglass more foil then weigh down a second dish; trim and paint so we don’t get LNB sunburn.
The ball dish is very portable and the DIY dish factory one is pretty portable too, and can use regular pattern dish mounting hardware and LNB boom.
Both only partly solve portability for non LNB only Othernet areas but not being able to DIY from junk or local non specialized components with only basic tools; on the other hand the foil stuff is wrecked in days outside in most non-perfect weather…
Try the chicken wire mesh. It works as well as foil, but is wind and water resistant. Ken
Either the horn or the cone - -
The horn is 4 (top) x 2 (bottom) x 8 inches, and the cone is 4 inch diameter at the top and 2 inches at the bottom by 8 inches. Ken
So on Ku band with wavelength at 2.5–1.67 cm the microwaves coming in at that angle the hole size is not a problem, probably get some loss though using same stuff for a dish or reflector.
Can you do a line art drawing with all dimensions before and after assembly?
Here’s the trapezoid pattern I used with both aluminum flashing or 1/4 inch chicken wire:
It is very hard to connect the chicken wire together as trapezoid panels, so I made a cone out of it which was easier to connect together as it only required one edge to be connected. Ken
Here’s another idea I have implemented on my portable terminal - - a stainless steel collapsible drinking cup cut to securely snug over the LNB cover - -
It gives me about a 3 dB improvement in SNR (no effect on Rssi). The bottom is 2 3/8 " diameter, the top is 2 7/8" diameter, and the height is 3". Smaller than the cones and wave guides, but equally effective - - thou a lesser SNR improvement. Ken
How did you make the case, looks to be a very naval grade rig.
Turns out the case was one of Othernet’s original cases shipped to early supporters who bought into the Crowd Funding a couple of years ago. What Syed did was offer the then “Lantern” device to those who wanted it, or told them to wait for the production model which they are still working on
Back then, the “Lantern” was thought to be a L-Band device with a patch antenna run by solar cells. Well that didn’t happen - - but I kept the case and modified it to hold the Dreamctcher board and the LNB which I fixed into the case thru a rubber gasket so I could change the skew. After I concluded a cone improved SNR on the Ku-band LNB (some of us used martini shakers), I though to get a collapsible drinking cup so the cone wouldn’t be so hard to pack. It worked out well. My little traveling Gnome has had a hard life falling of balconies in Europe and getting soaked in the rain.
The case fits nicely into my luggage when I travel, and the electronics don’t move around getting disconnected. Ken
It is very cool, I am trying to come up with an idealized portable othernet rig for some remote work I will be involved with in not too long a time; but like too many DIYish gadgets in my life it will probably end up a bare circuit board wrapped in chloroplast and kapton or something.
FWIW, I collected the results from the various designs I could find in the forums and it is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sd3QmyjGJtz8tH7qSFf-ep6T0RIfjtKh/view
The file is also linked in the Wiki in the horn section.
I think this is my favorite post.
This is great!! Extra good for having dB improvement numbers; ideally we would have the dB numbers of a pool of users for each and average the improvement score for a given horn or dish design. Exactly this is the kind of stuff that needs to be in the back of the user manual.
Can I get a refund on my Lantern backing?
Left a comment on indiegogo, contacted you on indiegogo, emailed the othernet website…no reply yet…
If you check any one of them you should be able to tell which backer i am and how much to refund me.
I just found something interesting
The Beach Behemoth Giant 12Ft Inflatable Ball
- Material: 0.2mm PVC
- Net Weight: 3kg/6.6lb
- Gigantic:Measuring 12 feet from pole to pole
- Diameter: 8Ft/240cm
- US$80 free delivery on an auction site
Cut open and coat the natural inner 2m dish with a high aluminum paint and then with a dark color. It might be necessary to tape and inflate fully for the next step of using PVC tube cemented to patches with glue(acetone/dissolved PVC scrap) to suspend and keep the LNB aimed. Alternatively patch in a flexible reflective layer at the equator and use differential pressure to curve it into a 2.5m dish with easier external LNB placement like the GATR dish-ball(watch the video attached). This might be patented(almost certainly is) so it will remain one of those DIY only solutions. The user can also paint the outside if they wish to reduce the loudness of the ‘ball’ in their yard. I would love to see some of our northern users in Canada and Alaska outside the official footprint try this out!
It makes me wish there was an amateur geostat to use this with, you need all the antenna gain you can get when fighting the inverse-square law, operating on a QRP TX budget, and minimum range is 35,786km.
I believe you were refunded a few days ago.